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  • Started 10 months ago by Eric Blade
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  1. Michigan has recently had some bills introduced that are seeking to hamstring our abilities to run organized charity game rooms - primarily by increasing the existing licensing fees for the charities from $50 per day to $250 per day, without giving the charities anything else in return - the ability to sell more than 15k in chips in a day, the ability to run more games, etc. Most charities at the highest volume rooms seem to be bringing in around $3k for a 4-day event, with lower volume rooms not even coming close to that. Increasing the fee from $200 for an event to $1000 would significantly cut into the ability to profitably run a game for a charity, and without giving anything in return, is completely asinine - and seems to be primarily a ploy to (a) get more income for the state and/or (b) shut down the vast majority of the 180 or so charity game rooms that have opened in the state over the last 2 years. [some people suspect that that would cut the state down to around the 5 or 6 most high volume charity rooms, with more than half of them going under within 2 weeks of the new legislation passing, if it were to do so]

    What can we do to most effectively get on the legislature to not pass these bills, and perhaps work to pass legislation that will improve our games rather than detract from them?

    Posted 10 months ago #
  2. Skallagrim
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    I am honored that you would ask me this question, eblade, but I think TheEngineer could give you better advice on this than me. There is not much a lawyer can do to help stop bad legislation.

    But based on what you have posted above, it sure seems to me a publicity campaign is in order here; one that publicly SHAMES the legislators who would try and take money from charities and put it in the state budget. A letter writing campaign both to the legislators and to the media (mostly papers) is a good start. I would coordinate this with some of the more prominent charities who benefit from the games. As state director, you could write a letter to the editor and see if you can get some heads of the charities to co-sign it. You can also coordinate the PPA membership in Michigan and get them to do some letter writing directly to their representatives.

    Drew Losefski at the PPA will help coordinate an in-state email alert for you. And either TE or I will be glad to help write the letter to the editor if you want.

    Skallagrim

    Posted 10 months ago #
  3. Big Jim Slade v2.0
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    I recall two bills in the state general Assembly that I opposed. I both cases I contacted the sponsor of the bill.

    In the first case, I might as well been talking to a wall. In the second case I found the legislator to be willing to talk and he had no clue that anyone woudl oppose his bill. Many of us called to voice our concerns.

    I moved from thinking of the guy as an idiot lawmaker to thinking of him as a public servant trying to do what was best. (It was a hard transition, but it became my public face). Anyway, the second guy dropped his bill.

    At least try talking to them. First over the phone, then get together 20 guys who all want to meet with him. He will schedule a meeting for you. But always be polite to the legislator.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  4. There isn't a "Ask TheEngineer" forum here ;)

    Who is the Michigan director?

    It looks like they want to leave the licensing fees the same for charities that will run the operation entirely on their own, using only members of the charitable organization and who "do not receive any wage, salary, pay, or profit from running or organizing" the event.

    So, what they want to do is eliminate the places where people are getting paid to operate the events (ie, the rooms that have sprung up all over). AND, who from a charity, is going to take their time away from their regular job and lives, to organize and conduct an event, for up to 4 days, w/o compensation?

    I hadn't realised that user umichiganpoker had made a post already about this - /forums/topic/575

    This would not only eliminate a lot of the rooms (which imo seems to be the goal), but would also eliminate perhaps 1000 or so jobs in the state by doing so, and would likely move the vast majority of poker players back to playing home games, rather than driving them to casinos, considering that there are ... 6? casinos in michigan, 3 of them in one spot, and the others spread out ridiculously far apart.

    How do I reach this Drew Losefski?

    I'm going to spend some time tonight with a word processor, and see if I can draft together something that looks good to present to the people involved. According to an article in the Det. Free Press, it honestly sounds like they are just cluelessly presenting legislation, but are actually trying to actively kill the poker rooms in the state, after they didn't realise they had legalised such a thing when they made poker legal at these charity events.

    It's been a long time since I've written anything in a professional capacity, so I'll boucne it off some people here first, if ya'all don't mind.

    *potential good news: my local representative is the son of the owner of the firm that dealt with my ex when she had legal issues during our seperation. potential bad news: i've emailed him on two other occasions as well as attempted to call him before, and have received absolutely no response at all* *maybe i'll have to call his dad :D *

    Posted 10 months ago #
  5. Skallagrim
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    Send Drew an email at this address, eblade: drew@theppa.org

    He can also tell you who the Michigan State Director is.

    They have tried similar things with respect to the charity game operators here in NH, and the state has managed to get a bigger cut, but that was done through compromise that also made the operators happy.

    In a stand-off, however, no politician wants to be accused of hurting charities.

    Skallagrim

    Posted 9 months ago #

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