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  1. TheEngineer
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    My updated guide is on my blog, at http://theengineer.theppa.org/presidential-candidates-and-internet-poker-rights/ . I've added the Constitution Party nominee Chuck Baldwin.

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    Constitution Party nominee Chuck Baldwin:

    The Constitution Party's platform opposes gaming. It says: "Gambling promotes an increase in crime, destruction of family values, and a decline in the moral fiber of our country. We are opposed to government sponsorship, involvement in, or promotion of gambling, such as lotteries, or subsidization of Native American casinos in the name of economic development. We call for the repeal of federal legislation that usurps state and local authority regarding authorization and regulation of tribal casinos in the states."

    Baldwin has made a number of similar statements:

    http://www.constitutionparty.net/news_print.php?aid=36 : "Can you imagine a nation without an A.C.L.U. or a N.E.A.? Can you imagine a country that did not legally murder its own unborn children and that would not pander to sexual deviants and criminals? Can you imagine a country without legalized gambling? Can you imagine a nation with strong state governments and an unobtrusive federal government?" Keep in mind that he didn't write, "Can you imagine a country where individuals each chose of their free will to not gamble". Rather, he wrote, "Can you imagine a country without legalized gambling". That's the key. He's imaging (and advocating) a country where the majority collectively assert rights over individuals in the area of all gaming. So long as this is at the state level and not the federal, Baldwin is happy.

    From http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin239.htm , by Baldwin: "George Barna summarized his findings by saying, "Faith makes very little difference in their [Christians] lives: believers do not train their children to think or act differently [from the world]. It's no wonder that they [Christian children] grow up to be just as involved in gambling, excessive drinking, and any other unbiblical behavior as everyone else."

    From http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin380.htm : "Can you imagine a nation without an A.C.L.U. or a N.E.A.? Can you imagine a country that did not legally murder its own unborn children and that would not pander to sexual deviants or criminals? Can you imagine a country that did not glorify, much less sponsor, gambling? Can you imagine a nation with strong state governments and a limited federal government?"

    From http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=12718 : "Beyond that, our nation has become addicted, yes, even obsessed, with sports, leisure, and gambling! Sports celebrities are more than icons, they are gods! Leisure is more than a pastime, it is the greatest motivation for living. It seems that all people dream about is having the financial ability to retire. By retirement they mean living a life without responsibility, duty, or obligation. In other words, a life of total self-absorption. And since most are unwilling or even incapable of earning such a life, gambling is the preferred method of obtaining this ultimate life of irresponsibility."

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    I started a Baldwin thread on the Ron Paul forum, at http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1495358 . Please vote. I recommend voting "F", but that's up to you.

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    Constitution Party of NY Statement On the Casino Issue
    http://www.nocasinoerie.org/cpnypr1.htm

    5/6/2004

    The Constitution Party of New York is dedicated to restoring New York to its constitutional limitations and biblical presuppositions. When New York families are struggling to get by, we understand the temptation to turn to casinos as a panacea. However, gambling is a destructive force in any society, which, if planted and allowed to grow, will thrust its roots deep into the soil and eventually poison surrounding communities with its toxic fruit. Gambling, is predicated on the losses, pain, and suffering of others. Scripture is replete with exhortations toward industriousness and admonitions against slothfulness. Gambling, meanwhile, portends something for nothing. The multi-billion-dollar gambling industry is built on money and greed.

    Over five million people are currently addicted to gambling. In many cases, money spent on gambling is money that should have gone to provide for the well-being of one's family or the advancement of a worthy cause. In all cases, it is an unwise investment with an almost-certain negative return. More importantly, such spending propagates an immoral, predatory and exploitative industry. Legal gambling operations are steeped in deceit. Casinos without clocks or windows to hide the passage of time, slot machines programmed for "near misses," and "riverboat" casinos that cannot sail are but a few examples. To engage in gambling indicates both a lack of trust in and dissatisfaction with God's provision.

    Therefore, we oppose casino gambling in Erie County and all gambling across New York. We particularly condemn the government of New York, which regulates gambling while simultaneously running a lottery of its own. The purpose of government is to protect the welfare of the citizenry and to suppress evil. State-sanctioned gambling does the opposite.

    The Constitution Party of New York has a real plan for economic growth in New York, but gambling isn't part of it..

    Submitted by:
    Joe Eldred
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    From what I’ve read, it seems that the Constitution Party wishes to devolve power from the federal level to the state level. I do like this about Baldwin and the CP.

    However, the Libertarian Party wishes to return this power to the people. OTOH, the CP, per everything they’ve ever written, wants this power to stay with state government, especially when it comes to matters of personal behavior.

    Examples:

    The Libertarian Party wishes to end the drug war because it’s an infringement on the rights of Americans. The CP wishes to end the federal drug war because they want a smaller federal government (though they still want federal involvement). They’d continue to keep drugs illegal at the state level. From the party platform: “The Constitution Party will uphold the right of states and localities to restrict access to drugs and to enforce such restrictions. We support legislation to stop the flow of illegal drugs into these United States from foreign sources. As a matter of self-defense, retaliatory policies including embargoes, sanctions, and tariffs, should be considered.”

    The Libertarian Party supports Internet gaming rights because restrictions are infringements on the rights of Americans. The CP wishes to end the federal gaming involvement primarily to stop the feds from forcing Indian gaming on states. They’d push for all gaming to be prohibited at the state level per a whole bunch of documents I’ve posted here.

    The Libertarian Party doesn’t support censoring adult pornography. The CP, in this case, supports federal efforts to censor the Internet, as states cannot stop this interstate commerce (which I found troubling when relating it to how they’d likely handle Internet poker). From their platform: “We call on our local, state and federal governments to uphold our cherished First Amendment right to free speech by vigorously enforcing our laws against obscenity to maintain a degree of separation between that which is truly speech and that which only seeks to distort and destroy.”

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