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POKER CAN HELP THE ECONOMY

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  • Started 1 year ago by Dianna Donofrio
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  1. The below article was written by Brian Cherry for Launch Poker launchpoker.com
    and futher supports why the UIGEA needs to be overturned! The President and our leaders in Washington need to pay attention to what the poker players can do to help our economy

    By Brian Cherry, Jul 2, 2009
    If you are the sort of person whose brain functions are determined by emotion and ideology, I propose you stop reading at this point and go off to read something that is more in line with your intellectual abilities; I suggest a nice “Where’s Waldo?” book. If you are a person whose thinking is governed by logic and reason keep reading.

    When George W. Bush took office in January of 2001, he had it pretty rough in his first few months. He was left with the Clinton recession to deal with while also having to get the nation through the emotional and economic damage caused by the terrorist attacks of 9-11. When you throw in Hurricane Katrina it is pretty amazing that the unemployment rate rarely got over 6%. In reality the Bush economy spent most of its time in the 4% and 5% ranges, and brought record amounts of cash into the federal treasury. The industry of poker, of course, thrived in this environment.

    By contrast, Obama was handed a recession (much like Bush) but through an economic policy that is the fiscal equivalent of trying to tune a piano with nitro glycerin, he has stimulated the United States to almost 10% unemployment. His “economic stimulus” has created more debt in less than six months then the combined fiscal efforts of the two centuries of Presidents that preceded him. He has guaranteed that America will experience world class inflation by printing trillions of new unbacked dollars, and his cap and trade policies will cost the average citizen more than $3000 per year in raised gas and electric bills. In short, he has done to the United States economy what Loreena Bobbitt did to her husband’s manhood. If the World Series of Poker is any sort of barometer, the poker industry is still managing to thrive; even in this challenging environment.

    When you look at the number of people participating in World Series of Poker events, you see numbers that that are into the hundreds and thousands. More than one event has flirted with the 3000 mark; and we are not even to the Main Event yet. When you take these numbers as a small representation of the national pool of poker players, and (much like Nielson ratings) conclude that for every guy who takes the trouble to spend his vacation days (and cash) playing at the WSOP, there are thousands of others who are also willing to play for money. In an economic environment that can only be considered a quagmire, somebody with the ability to make laws has got to see this and conclude that people like to use their money to play poker. After that rather obvious epiphany, they could also make the leap in logic that people would also like to do this online. Maybe, just maybe, someone in Washington will look at this recession proof industry, and decide that legalizing it and taxing it might be more fair then trying to pay for a radical agenda by raising the taxes on social workers, engineers, teachers and tech writers. That’s just a thought.

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  2. michael garrity
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    I truly believe that online poker is destroying our economy. Billions of dollars are leaving our economy and traveling to other countries around the world, countries that dislike us. These companies are not there because they enjoy bringing online poker to us, they are in it for the money. The only way to fix this problem is to completly rid the usa of online poker. I have no objections to there being poker houses throughout the country and within casino's. The issue is all of the money that would otherwise stay within our economy. Online poker should be banned and disallowed unless these companies subject themselves to United States government regulation and taxation, but they will not. So this means the only way for our economy to profit from poker would be by shutting our doors to online poker.

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  3. Charles Marshall
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    Mike if you spent all of the time learning to play poker that you have used on here to bash it and online playing you would be the next Stu Ungar. I'm so sick of people on here bashing what I spend so much time to protect. I guess the american way is free speech so perhaps you are entitled to your mindless banter. I will say this though you have for the last 7-8 months said you would stop playing online poker, you are for the UIGEA etc. Yes, I've come across your other posts and decided tonight I would read all of them this evening. It sounds like to me you can't stop playing and I for one think you have a problem. Here is a web site you should check out http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/mtgdirTOP.html There is a meeting directory for every state. I suggest you use it and quit wasting your time and others who are here because they know when their rights as responsible americans are being trampled on. This site is not here to discuss the integrity of poker sites it's here to fight for the integrity of poker rights. I would ask you not respond and think very carefully before doing so.

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  4. michael garrity
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    Lol. I do not have a problem, and I no longer play online poker. I am for online poker regulation and allowing it in the United States of America with regulation from the United States Government and Taxation by the United States Government. I agree that I do believe that online poker is a joke, as it stands right now, and totally rigged. When you see 7 people have quads in 50 hands played in a tournament you kinda get that feeling. Also when you constantly get sucked out on the river by someone who raises you all in on a 3 out draw and your poker tracker odds are way off what they should be you know there is a problem. I am for online poker and not against it when rules are used and the sites are legit. The kawanake regulation of online casinos and poker is a joke and not valid for chit as far as I am concerned. Now let me ask you a question, Why did you think my reply above was condeming all online poker? I never stated that I didn't think online poker would be a great thing for the United States economy, I merely stated that all of the money is leaving our economy and traveling to terrorist harboring nations around the world. Don't you think that is a problem when our unemployment rate is at 9.5 percent, but billions of dollars are leaving our economy and traveling to these other nations who don't spend a dime in our economy, but rather take free aid from us.

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  5. Big Jim Slade v2.0
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    mikern12 asks:

    "Why did you think my reply above was condeming [sic] all online poker? I never stated that I didn't think online poker would be a great thing for the United States economy..."

    I don't know why chukphx may or may not have had such thoughts, but as for myself, I gained the impression from your direct statements. Specifically, it was your comment

    "The only way to fix this problem is to completly [sic] rid the usa [sic] of online poker."

    But then again, I don't know the full history of your messages. I only quickly scanned this singular entry rather than perusing it to the fullest.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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