Sound familiar? I joined Full Tilt as a starry eyed rookie, and promptly tripled my bankroll($100to$300) in six days on five and ten dollar sit-n-go tables.All of that money and a couple hundred more have dissapeared into the black hole known as Full Tilt. Even though my playing has improved a great deal,and i consistantly show profit on other sites, its no go at FT. Beginners luck? What does your experiance tell you? hassle89.
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Posted 2 years ago #
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This is some good advice I got from a fellow member I just copied it but the thread was started by me sometime ago called Full Tilt Caters
Chukphx- It's a frequent complaint from people moving from live games to online play that suckouts happen more often or that their hands don't hold up as often. This phenomenon is an illusion caused by several factors. The first, as you pointed out, is that you will see more short-term variance (timewise, not per # of hands, which is a better indicator) because you are getting an exponentially higher amount of hands per hour. Additionally, the average internet game post-UIGEA is much, much more difficult than the average low-limit live game. This is mostly because playing online is such a pain in the ass at this point, it's difficult to get money in, it takes a long time to cash out, some sites have pulled out of the US market, and other startups don't even allow US players, so generally, if you are playing online today, you are pretty serious about playing some poker. Also, there is a psychological effect of internet play that you might not be considering. It's more difficult for many players to make a laydown online. Consider this hypothetical, you have an open-ended straight draw on the turn, a tight, solid player pots it, and it is your action, you are sure he has at least an overpair to your draw. In person everyone is watching your decision, you know that you will hear their comments after the hand, "he doesn't know how to calculate pot odds, he's a maniac, that was so obvious". You have to physically put your chips into the pot, and they feel really heavy when you are calling without odds and you know it. Also, you know that if you spike your 8-outer on the river after a bad call, the table will sympathize with your opponent, while if you miss, noone will care. It's almost a lose-lose situation psychologically. Conversely, if you are faced with the same situation online, your chipstack is just a number on a screen, it barely feels like money, you can't just take it to the cage in 3 minutes and get cash, the call is just a click away, you don't have to see or speak to anyone else during or after the hand, it's tougher to tell that your opponent is solid and tight, because you have no physical tells, and you probably haven't been watching his earlier hands because you are probably playing 7 other tables at the same time, as well as watching some tv and eating dinner, and if you fold, you won't get to see that last card, and you let some buffoon with a donkey avatar and a name like "bongrip6969" push you off of your hand with who knows what. I've played live and online for several years, and I have had the same feeling that you have on many different sites vs live casinos, and that's my best explanation for it thus far. I would recommend playing 2-3000 sngs on FTP the same way that you are used to playing and then check your stats on http://www.sharkscope.com. You will probably find long winning and losing streaks (in the last 2000 games i've had a 17 game losing streak while still maintaining a 23% ROI overall). If you still aren't where you want to be, perhaps try altering your bet-sizing, such as making the smallest bet that will cut off the pot-odds of your opponents when you have a made hand, if you think maybe they will call no matter what, you will still give yourself odds without getting hammered when they hit. Hope this helped to some degree. Good Luck at the tables, also, call your representative this morning :) Cheers.
Arkitekt83Posted 2 years ago # -
Right on chukphx, you hit the nail on the head.... You do see more hands online then at a real poker table.
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Your inability to lower your stakes as you went on a losing streak is the cause of your bankroll demise, not a rigged site.
Is this 2+2 or the PPA. Stop posting these stupid topics.
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thats true you need to keep your BR in check, drop in stakes as you lose.... Most of the cry baby's don't and won't pick up a book or go on forums to learn, and think they can watch tv and pick it up from there, and what they don't learn is how to take care of your BR,, your BR is your life line.
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