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1. admin@poker915.com
   Member

   On May 25, the Libertarian Party announced its presidential and vice presidential nominees, and the ticket is VERY pro poker!

   Libertarian Presidential Nominee: Bob Barr

   Libertarian Vice Presidential Nominee: Wayne Allyn Root

   Both of these men have voiced support of poker players' rights, and Mr. Root has been particularly outspoken.

   Given that Bob Barr has held national office in the past, the Libertarian Party and poker rights may get a little more attention this go 'round.

   to read more please visit http://lp.org.

   Posted 4 months ago #

2. Self Made
   Member

   It's great that so many PPA members seem to be Libertarians, or support Libertarian candidates. So why is the PPA's platform to regulate online poker, rather than deregulate it? Liberals believe government is the solution; Libertarians believe it's the problem.

   Posted 4 months ago #

3. titlemike.ws
   Member

   I think the PPA basically wants online gaming legal because they were supported by gaming sites and they are willing to compermise with government. Lets go all in and support the best America has, Barr/Root (mostly Root) and let them sort it out. Help start a movement in the right direction visit titlemike.ws

   Posted 4 months ago #

4. titlemike.ws
   Member

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   Posted 4 months ago #

5. TheEngineer
   Administrator

   "I think the PPA basically wants online gaming legal because they were supported by gaming sites"

   The PPA wants online POKER to be clearly legal because this is America and we should have this freedom. PPA would take either self-regulation or minimal government regulation (like the Wexler Bill) to preserve this freedom.

   Clearly legal, unregulated online poker would be great. However, given that the House voted 317-93 to ban us (HR 4411, the bill that became UIGEA after being weakened), it seems this isn't likely to pass soon. We're getting stronger, so it could some day, perhaps. However, PPA does have to fight for what's obtainable.

   Posted 4 months ago #

6. CFirm
   Member

   Yes, lets support Barr/Root and they might get 2% of the vote, 3%if we work really hard.

   Posted 3 months ago #

7. CFirm
   Member

   I don't want to sound like too much of a smart ass, but we should concentrate on lobbying candidates who actually might win an election.

   Posted 3 months ago #

8. TheEngineer
   Administrator

   "I don't want to sound like too much of a smart ass, but we should concentrate on lobbying candidates who actually might win an election."

   Barr/Root is polling around 7%. If they maintain this, the GOP really cannot win. As such, we have some real leverage, especially as Root is asking for our support and as we're only seeking a small concession -- clearly legal online skills game wagering.

   Posted 3 months ago #

9. TheEngineer
   Administrator

   I have a guide in my blog, at http://theengineer.pokerplayersalliance.org/presidential-candidates-and-internet-poker-rights/ .

   Posted 3 months ago #

10. CFirm
    Member

    The problem with the GOP is that their base is made up largely of evangelical and fundamentalist Christians that view all gambling as a sin. Furthermore, our leading opponent in the senate is John Kyl, the other senator from Arizona and McCain's buddy.

    Posted 3 months ago #

11. TheEngineer
    Administrator

    "The problem with the GOP is that their base is made up largely of evangelical and fundamentalist Christians that view all gambling as a sin. Furthermore, our leading opponent in the senate is John Kyl, the other senator from Arizona and McCain's buddy."

    Well, if the Libertarians get 7% and the Democrats get a big share, it seems the GOP won't win the presidency in Nov. As for Congress, their best hope is to retain what they have. So, they may feel it's a sin, but if they're out of power it won't matter. :-) Maybe a few years out will help them to remember their limited government ways.

    Posted 3 months ago #

12. admin@poker915.com
    Member

    Ditto (to quote a famous Republican) everything The Engineer said.

    Posted 3 months ago #

13. CFirm
    Member

    First of all, unfortunately, the millions of politically active Christian zealots are not going anywhere and they constitute almost half of registered Republicans. The GOP is NOT going to change their ways as long as this is the case. Secondly, third party candidates often poll well early in the race but seldom get that vote in the election. There is no way in hell that the Barr/Root ticket will win a single state, much less the election. John McCain is one of our biggest enemies in Congress. He got an F in the voter guide for his work as a senator and his fellow GOP senator from Arizona, Jon Kyl, was the senate sponsor for the bill banning us from depositing in online sites. Even though Obama is not perfect on our issues, he is certainly better than McCain. If we want any favorable legislation to be passed the next four years, we stand a much better chance under an Obama administration. Finally, I get the idea that many of the posters here are reluctant to vote for Obama for reasons other than poker. That is fine and good, but this is not what we are here to discuss.

    Posted 3 months ago #

14. TheEngineer
    Administrator

    Good post. Welcome to the forum!

    "There is no way in hell that the Barr/Root ticket will win a single state, much less the election."

    They don't have to win a state, fortunately, to affect the election. They just have to peel off >5% of the vote. Barr is more media savvy than prior Libertarian candidates (and that's a big understatement). He's already appeared on a number of mainstream television shows, including a full hour on Glenn Beck. You're obviously correct in stating that it's still early. Hopefully his early decent poll numbers will be enough to get into the debates, as we poker players really need a voice of liberty there.

    "John McCain is one of our biggest enemies in Congress. He got an F in the voter guide..."

    Which guide? I've not seen him rated that low for poker anywhere. My guide has him at D and Obama at C.

    "Finally, I get the idea that many of the posters here are reluctant to vote for Obama for reasons other than poker. That is fine and good, but this is not what we are here to discuss."

    I've not observed that.

    Obama has made a number of anti-gaming statements, and he voted against several gaming bills as a state senator. I think it's possible to not support him based on that. It's also possible and reasonable to support him based on him being better for us than McCain. IMO, both views are valid.

    Posted 3 months ago #

15. admin@poker915.com
    Member

    I'm one of those people who can't vote for Obama for reasons other than poker. However, I can't vote for McCain for reasons other then poker as well. Namely I'm not sure either candidate has read the Constitution or, if they have, understand or care about it based on their voting records.

    So, I'm going to vote (most likely) Libertarian and, as a bonus, get a pro-poker ticket. Although I must say any true Constitutionalist would be a pro-poker candidate (at least at the federal level) regardless of their personal feelings on the game.

    This isn't for strategy or taking votes from Republicans, but because I'm voting my conscience. And please, before anyone hits me with the "throwing my vote away" rhetoric take a moment to remember that Republicans would still be a "third party" if people in the mid-1800s used this line of reasoning.

    PS & For the record: 1) This is the first time I have posted any political views on this site outside of poker. 2) I am personally opposed to the federal government regulating poker or taxing poker income to a greater degree than any other form of self-employment.

    Posted 3 months ago #

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